The DPA / Nagra recording's a nice one. Meaty, full mid range really comes through, especially in the vocals. Bit heavy on the low end for my tastes in amplified acoustic. Pretty mono sounding to my ears. Different strokes...

<<< gricklegrass wrote: I wish the quality of the recording was as good as they used to be >>>

Maybe convince the band not to play terrible sounding venues. :P

"I would have to say this is a terrible sounding recording. This venue is not that bad sounding considering the house of blues or aargon could of been played.... "

This is flat wrong. The Congress was a horrible sounding venue. I mean gawd awful. Concrete everywhere, no materials to deaden the reverb and a tryly amaturish crowd of young drunks creaming their heads off (I can't falut them for the latter..I was once young and drunk but I at least had the common sense not to be so right next to the tapers...whatever..). I have seen my share of Yonder over the last 6-7 years and this was the worst sounding venue I have heard. Ben did a fine job as always but you can only polish a T*rd so much...

I have compared Brian's 24bit, Christos' 16 bit and my 24bit Schoeps m/s of this and(ahhem...) I like my schoeps the most. It has a smother top end that Brian's c34 tapes and, while sightly more mono, cust out the room a bit more. I have not heard the 4011>Nagra (though Nagra's are de kine, I'm not so excited about the A>D on a Marantz CDR-600 and I'm not sure why it was run through an additional pre-amp). Also these mush have been the crew that set up by Ben so they were another 35' from stage...

If anyone wants links to my copies you can find them at
http://www.archive.org/details/ymsb2007-10-06.mk8mk4.flac16

Thanks to whoever uploaded it when my connection was tied up with non-archive friendly band seeds.

analog4011: I've been trying to get around to grabbing the B&K source but I'm still seeding both 16 and 24bit copies of WsP in WI from last weekend. I'm well aware of the importance of a pre amp. I've run a 148, 248, PSP2, PSP3, V2, V3, Beyer and various pro consoles and run tubes at home. I will say this though. A pre is not as important as the mics or placement. Given that crowd I'm having a hard time believing that Cards from 25' farther back will be better in that room than mid/side considering that both Brian and I, indipendently, wound up adding about +5dB with a hyper as a mid cap. Also, I know full well the quality of a Nagra... it was the A>D that I was questioning, not the pre. At some point you need to take the analog feed from the Nagra (which has already been brought up to line level by the Nagra in the initial recording process hence no need for an additional pre in the transfer process. Just an unneeded set of cables and circuts between the Nagra and the CD recorder)to digital and I'd rather have a 722 do it than a standalone consumer burner.... YMMV.

I have now listened to the Nagra. On my systems at least I prefer Brian's an my copies. The nagra copy sounds distant to me and a bit muddy in comparison... but that's on my system which tends to be warm given that its all tubes.

Staggolee.....you really should d/l that Nagra recording. Guaranteed top quality control. The pre-amp is imperative part when you couple analog gear. Unless you listen.....you will never know.

Rick

http://www.archive.org/details/ymsb2007-10-06.NagraReelToReelAnalog.flac

I would have to say this is a terrible sounding recording. This venue is not that bad sounding considering the house of blues or aargon could of been played....

http://www.archive.org/details/ymsb2007-10-06.NagraReelToReelAnalog.flac

this recording only has 60 DL's but sounds MUCH better and realistic.... DL'ed that one after listening to them all it was superior ... He also has the Rave show from Milwaukee the prior night.

great show all and all, i just wish i could say im sorry to them personally for accidentally throwing that glow stick at dave j. I was wasted and i meant for it to stay in the croud! oops, now every time i listen to this recording i think of that dumb move after ramblers anthem.

i give it 2 for trying, but i bet u were one of the guys up from in the crowd as opposed to back at the board.


I HIGHLY ReaCOMMEND THIS ONE FOR THE CONGRESS!!

http://www.archive.org/details/ymsb2007-10-06.NagraReelToReelAnalog.flac

Arrived about 8 for the show, slammed all my whiskey and hopped out of cab only to see huge will call line. Then magicallly, the side doors of the congress opened and the whole crowed just walked right in. I paid for my tix but never had to use them.

It was a sick show. I nearly died twice.
Some people seemed to resent us having a good time and getting up front though. Fascist Hippies suck!

Outstanding show!! But milwaukee the night before was even better. Does anybody have it?

this show was amazing!!! i usually hate going to chicago to see shows because of the traffic and parking but yonder was totally worth it!!! its always good to see a band at their best (playing at the home) i really dont think it gets better than this! yay for yonder! hope yall have fun at new years!

Thanks for the quick up on this show, it was a fun ass time, and holy shiza was that crowd loud. Gotta love the chitown yonder shows.

This was by my own count my ninth Yonder show this year. And though this recording does not do it justice, it was, no doubt, one the most energized shows I've ever been to, right up there with their shows in Amsterdam this past March. I think for Jeff and Dave especially, playing Chicago, home, is something they really dig. Having seen them at the HOB the past few years, this larger venue was exciting because there was that much more crowd -- the place was packed -- and you could feel that energy feeding between the guys up there playing their hearts out and the rest of us literally soaking below. At stage center about fifteen feet back, the vantage was just about perfect in every way. That first set left us completely drenched and thoroughly amped; it was as fine a first set I've ever seen, and my buddy thought afterward that we were waiting for them to come back to play the encore not realizing there was yet another entire -second- set to be had. When they brought out Fishman to play the last two songs of that very thoroughly played first set, it was almost a mind-bender because at that point you had to figure the first set was anyway complete and Fishman wasn't coming until set two. --After going halfway across the country and halfway around the world the past three years to see them, these guys keep surprising me with how interesting the shows are. I love that. And I can think of a few more venues I need to see the boys play; I hope to see you at a couple of them. Look for me.

This was truly an amazing show. I was there and it rocked. I wish the quality of the recording was as good as they used to be :( Oh well.

Everyone needs to have this show. Adding Jon Fishman to the mix gives the band an extra dimension of killer sound. The show was amazing and the energy of the crowd was through the roof!! To anyone else that was at this show, thanks for helping to make it one of the rowdiest Yonder shows I've been to in 7 years of shows. This is a must have show for everyone.

Totally off the hook show here folks!!! If you weren't there....you need this show! If you were there, I need not say anymore! KILLER SOUND! Outstanding job on the recording!!! Keep up the good work!
Pearhead